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Welcome to Issue #191 of Loop WP!

Last week, we explored Google’s UCP announcement and its implications for e-commerce and WooCommerce.

This week, following up on last week, Matt Mullenweg was interviewed on the newly relaunched Doo The Woo podcast, which addresses my question about Google UCP and more.

Let’s go! 👇

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The Future of WooCommerce - A Conversation with Matt Mullenweg

You can watch the full replay of the interview over on the Doo the Woo Podcast YouTube channel.

James Kemp and Katie Keith are the new hosts of the new podcast under the umbrella of Open Channels FM.

While I personally found some of Matt Mullenweg’s answers a bit awkward at times, they seemed like honest answers.

It was a great first show, and it addressed a lot of questions, including one from last week’s newsletter: “Why wasn’t WooCommerce part of the launch announcement (again)?”

Let’s look at those in more detail (questions are taken from the video transcript). 👇

The Questions Matt Answered

🚨 These are not all the questions put to Matt, but a selection I feel are most important to this newsletter and to you, the reader. The answers do not include anything added by James or Katie.

I am adding my own thoughts ( 💡 ), and some of Matt’s answers are paraphrased. Let’s get cracking!

Q: What’s WooCommerce’s biggest existential threat (internal or external), and what are you doing about it right now?
Matt: “At the scale of WooCommerce… they’re never actually killed by competitors… the biggest threat is internal… it’s always because of execution… our ability to execute against what we’re hearing from the community and what we know the software needs… Open source… increases your freedom… and especially in the age of AI… feature differentiations are going to start to fade… what you’re choosing is a community, a platform… and that freedom stance.”

💡 Matt is probably right in that WooCommerce is “too big to fail”, but that won’t necessarily stop WooCommerce from losing significant market share (and its dominance).

Q: What are WooCommerce’s competitive advantages and how do they set Woo up for success in the next five years?
Matt: “Biggest competitive advantage is freedom… more liberty, autonomy… sovereign software… The second is Woo’s open and infinitely extensible nature… I think we’ll see… ‘malleable software’… take something that’s already there… with the craft and security… and then you create on top of that… With WooCommerce… everyone in the community can make it better… not just the core team.”

💡 From a Dev, Agency or Builder perspective, I get that, but what about from a store owner's perspective? Most don’t care about ownership/open source…they want something easy to use with as little friction to income as possible.

Q: Is there going to be more WooCommerce coverage at flagship WordCamps?
Matt: “If people want it, there will be… Be the change you want to see… make the pitch… look at who’s coming… with almost a quarter of all WordPress websites using WooCommerce… maybe… a quarter of sessions… should be about WooCommerce or commerce more broadly… As long as things are open source, they’re welcome at WordCamps… I’ll keep that in mind.”

💡 I don’t think this should be the community's sole responsibility. With the creation of the Checkout Summit (Issue 176), there is a clear community appetite for a dedicated WooCommerce event.

Automattic needs to be intentional around this. In Issue 189, I talked in detail about the role marketing needs to play for WooCommerce in 2026 and beyond.

Q: WooCommerce serves merchants, product builders, and agencies. Are there goals aligned to those segments — and how are they prioritized?
Matt: “Yes… there are goals tied to each one… How are they prioritized? Off the dome, not certain right now… those are… big personas… there’s been more specific outreach… around growing the agency program… I also saw feedback that WordCamps might not want pitches… but once a product becomes a platform… it’s okay… because a lot of people can build on it.”

💡 I would love to hear more on this. As a freelancer, I’ve been rejected from the agency program in the past (and that hurt a little bit), but I would love to know:

  • What are the goals for each segment?

  • How are those goals being achieved?

Q: If developer resources weren’t a constraint, what would you do — what would unlock the biggest leap forward?
Matt: “It’s very paired with this idea of intelligence being on tap with AI agents… that kind of is an unlimited developer resource… I would pick what WooCommerce’s roadmap is… focus on the interface being more radically accessible… reduce the friction… for merchants running a store day-to-day… every click you can remove… multiplies… checkout… is a multiplier… performance — you can always be faster.”

💡 This is encouraging to hear, as Shopify is much easier to use for Merchants than WooCommerce, and there are new additions to the ecosystem like FluentCart, which I covered in Issue 179.

Q: Any update on UCP (Google) — how will WooCommerce move forward with this?
Matt: “Shopify… will negotiate… exclusive day-of launch announcement… don’t worry… it’ll all be supported… these things are not being used at all… it’s very telling… almost a year after… there have been almost no… transactions… Sometimes… there’s something with tons of hype… and then users are like ‘nope’… My prediction: commerce from people in a chat interface versus AI agents driving browsers… the second part will be way, way bigger.”

💡 I would love to know where Matt gets his transaction data from (genuinely), but it’s encouraging to hear WooCommerce will support UCP.

Q: Any plans to bring back Woo Express?
Matt: “On WordPress[dot]com, we’re making a ton of investment into making onboarding easier… every paid plan… supports full plugins and themes… you get… scalability… performance… secure… WordPress[dot]com sites basically never get hacked… We’re thinking about tailored experiences… and… preconfiguring a hosting setup… To get scalability and everything you don’t need [Woo Express] anymore… onboarding can definitely still be improved.”

💡 I disagree with Matt here. To remain competitive, I think Woo should reconsider a hosted, decoupled version of WooCommerce (after the failed Woo Express attempt).

Q: Long term — what does WooCommerce look like in 3+ years?
Matt: “It’ll be faster… updates will be seamless… when an update breaks a site… it makes me furious… totally unacceptable… it needs to happen zero times… the interface will be much more modern… WordPress is going to evolve alongside that… and we’ll benefit from it and build on top of it.”

💡 Let’s hope so! WooCommerce made huge performance improvements in 2025 and (so far) 2026 is looking good too. There have been moves to improve the UI, but there is a long way to go on that front.

Your Thoughts?

What are your thoughts on the questions above, {{first_name|friend}}? Have you watched the interview?

The Repository has already written an article on the interview worth reading.

Reply to this email and let me know.

That’s it for this week. 👋

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Weekly WordPress News & Tips

This week's excellent and insightful WordPress News & Tips:

  • Developer Advisories - Removal of the AccessiblePrivateMethods trait in WooCommerce 10.5. (WooCommerce)

  • Checkout Summit - A Conference for WooCommerce Devs ft. Rodolfo Melogli. (Brian Coords)

  • Performance Nightmare - I tested the performance of 6 WordPress wishlist plugins so that you don’t have to. (Sabrina Zeidan)

  • A-Z - A Glossary for The Future of The Web. (James LePage)

  • Web Framework - Astro is joining Cloudflare. (Cloudflare)

  • Elementor One - One subscription. The complete experience. (Elementor)

  • Variable Products - Add to Cart button disabled by default in variable products in WooCommerce 10.5. (WooCommerce)

  • 🎂 25 Years! - Happy birthday, Drupal. (Jonathan Desrosiers)

  • No Hearing Date Yet - WP Engine Customers Refile Class Action After Judge Flags Pleading Gaps. (The Repository)

  • Product Management - How I Got Ralph to Ship Overnight. (Rich Tabor)

  • Performance First - Scaling Is Capacity, Performance Is Efficiency. (Remkus de Vries)

  • Progromatic Creation - WC REST API fixes for product variation attributes with special characters in WooCommerce 10.5. (WooCommerce)

  • MCP Tutorial - Using a Local Model to Access WooCommerce MCP in WordPress 6.9. (Nik McLaughlin)

  • Introducing Rivale - Competitive Intelligence for WordPress Plugin Developers. (Rivale)

  • Simple Points and Rewards - Conditional Rules, Points Summary, and more! (RelyWP)

  • 🚀 Performance Boost! - Experimental Product Object Caching in WooCommerce 10.5. (WooCommerce)

  • 🤦‍♂️ I Didn’t Like it - WordPress[dot]org X Account Sparks Backlash Over FAIR Jab. (The Repository)

  • Sky’s the Limit? - What’s Possible with WooCommerce MCP w/ Nik McLaughlin. (Brian Coords)

If you have a question about this email or WordPress, please reply, and I will respond as soon as possible.

👋 Until next time,

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